Suicide Rates Among Gay Youth: a Socratic Dialog

This short dialog between “Connie” and “Libby” was inspired by a comment left by one of the visitors to this blog site.

Connie: The high suicide rate among gay and lesbian youth is further proof that homosexuality is a deviant, immoral, and self-destructive lifestyle.
Libby: How is that?
Connie: Well, these homosexuals hate themselves for doing what they know is wrong, and so they commit suicide.
Libby: So, if I understand you, homosexuality produces low self-esteem because homosexuals know they are morally derelict, and then they commit suicide out of self-loathing?
Connie: Correct.
Libby: What would you say to a young gay or lesbian person who seems well-adjusted and is not thinking of committing suicide?
Connie: I would tell them how loathsome and disgusting their behavior is and how much God hates it.
Libby: What if they believed you and committed suicide?
Connie: I would just say they confirmed my original point, which is that these suicides among gay and lesbian youth prove that homosexuality is a deviant and destructive lifestyle.
Libby: Then, how would you counsel a young gay man who is thinking of ending his life?
Connie: I’d say, “Don’t do it. Just change your lifestyle, because God finds it abhorrent.”
Libby: Do you think that would be very effective?
Connie: It’s the best I can do. They need to get a grip and clean up their lives.
Libby: What if you told them that they were beautiful and that God loves them just as they are?
Connie: That wouldn’t be true. Why should I tell them that?
Libby: You might say that to help them feel better about themselves so that they would want to continue living.
Connie: Continue living as a homosexual? But I just told you, homosexuality produces low self-esteem and may lead to suicide.


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2 Responses to “Suicide Rates Among Gay Youth: a Socratic Dialog”

  1. paulackerman Says:

    Excellent point on the circular reasoning of the homphobes who dress their hatred up as compassion.

    Families of Gender Non-Conforming Children Ask For Your Help

    Many newspapers have reported on the recent program on KRXQ in Sacremento which concerned transgender and gender-non-conforming children. An excerpt from the Huffington Post article by Michael Rowe summarizes the statements of the radio disk jockeys, Rob Williams and Arnie State.

    Even by the flexible moral, ethical, and professional standards of American talk radio, the May 28th segment of KRXQ 98.5 FM Sacramento’s Rob, Arnie, & Dawn in the Morning radio talk show makes for a sickening half-hour of ugliness and cruelty. For once, the focus was not LGBT adults, but minors. The hosts, Rob Williams and Arnie States, devoted the segment in question to a vicious diatribe against transgender children, some as young as five, focusing in particular on the case of one Omaha family raising a gender dysphoric child, and their decision to support her transition from male to female.

    Williams and States took turns referring to gender dysphoric children as “idiots” and “freaks,” who were just out “for attention” and had “a mental disorder that just needs to somehow be gotten out of them,” either by verbal abuse on the part of the parents, or even shock therapy.

    “Allowing transgenders to exist, pretty soon it becomes normal to fall in love with the animals,” they said.

    As parents with gender non-conforming and transgender kids, we have come a long way in our understanding of this issue. Supportive parents come from all walks of life, all parts of the country, all religious traditions, all social classes. Some of us identify as conservatives, some liberal; some are hetero / gender normative themselves, some are not. Our kids come from traditional families and non-traditional families. Our kids most often (but not always) have gender normative siblings (or are only children).

    Only we really know who these kids are, and who they have to be. We brought them into the world. Now we’re trying to make the world a safer place for them. None of the choices we make in raising our kids are made lightly. We know the dangers our kids face. But we also know the world is changing. And we have to be a part of that change.

    “I have every right to call you a freak and judge you on that.” One of these men said. We ask that before anyone’s judgement is final, they listen to us, to the families, to the children, to the experts. Autistic kids were once thought of as freaks. As were Disabled kids. Cleft lip kids. Mixed race kids. Hyperactive kids. These kids are understood and appreciated. Someday soon, so will our kids.

    Read our stories before you share any opinion based on incomplete knowledge, or on your own parenting experiences with gender normative children. These kids are different. They’re not freaks or idiots. They can change hearts and minds. They are brave, and strong, but they cannot survive without support and understanding. They lead lives worth living, worth defending.

    We love our kids. We will not let them be humiliated, denigrated, harassed or bullied without a fight.

    If you’re with us, do something. Contact a sponsor on the naughty list or the nice list. Praise the nice; spank the naughty. Contact the FCC or KRXQ. Support TYFA. You can help save a kid’s life.

  2. thebentangle Says:

    Thank you, Paul, for passing along this very eloquent and moving appeal for support. I had not read this story about KRXQ, but I am glad to have a copy of it in my archives and will pass it on to others. (And I’ll contact KRXQ about it!)

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